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Need feedback on MOM documentation... - 3/9/2005 10:55:59 AM   
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Help Microsoft improve the MOM documentation. Visit the following URL and send your responses:

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RE: Need feedback on MOM documentation... - 4/5/2005 3:41:38 PM   
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What can you tell us about customer perceptions of the MOM 2005 docs? How is this different from perceptions of the MOM 2000 SP1 docs?
ANS: My clients have been telling me it' s a LOT better in terms of structure and immediate use. What' s missing is the ' in depth' stuff around MOM internals that remains un-charted.
When do customers go to the MOM docs? For example, is there specific content that they tend to (or would like to) read for evaluation? For deployment? For maintenance? For troubleshooting?
ANS: The one I hear is deployment. The on I hear is missing is ' Admin and maintainence'
How do customers use the MOM docs? (do they Google to find on TechNet, do they mostly download the different guides, do PSS or folks on newsgroups refer them to specific docs, etc.)
ANS: Mmmm...MOM groups (including this one) still a bit young and information is dispersed. So Technet and formal docs seem to be the most useful source.
How does PSS use the MOM docs?
ANS: Like a recurring prescription - there is a dearth of troubleshooting resources for MOM 2005 and I hear this a lot (ever remember NT4 days from PSS...." Have you applied SP3...?"
What are customers saying that they want from docs, or about finding content?
ANS: Finding content on difficult situations is hard. Scalability in architecture is scarce, the whole SDK and MCF area is very badly done (so they say... :-))
What do our competitors do differently for docs that is compelling to customers?
I would not want to quote HP OVO, CA or BMC as being particularly friendly to Windows customers :-) The concensus I hear is that Microsoft should do documentation of a solution for their platform head and shoulders above the others. I don;t think we' re there yet.
What assumptions can we make about people who use the docs, and how they use docs?
What areas of the product do customers have the most trouble using successfully?
Application logs (not event logs), alert suppresion, managed code responses, Console customisation (really** need a paper on this), COM+ internals for Management server

(well, , you did ask Rod :-))

Phil Evans is a Server management sonsultant for 1E - intelligent windows management.

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RE: Need feedback on MOM documentation... - 5/3/2005 11:07:51 AM   
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This is probably a good place to ask since I' m having trouble finding good printed documentation on MOM 2005 right now, so what books are out there right now and what is everyone' s favorite so far? I know two new books are coming out soon, one from Tim Kelly/Randy Holloway (ISBN: 0764589636) and another from Chris Amaris (ISBN: 0672323761) but those have not been released yet.

Besides the great info on this site here, what are your favorite MOM 2005 books?

Ken

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RE: Need feedback on MOM documentation... - 5/3/2005 1:10:58 PM   
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There are currently no MOM 2005 books on the market. There have been a few which have been proposed and supposedly a couple which are in writing now.

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RE: RE: Need feedback on MOM documentation... - 7/29/2005 2:17:19 AM   
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There are very few resources, but the following links reference a few locations with MOM material. Most of the information is for the beginner at best, but it is a start for new folks.

MOM technical resources: http://www.microsoft.com/mom/techinfo/default.mspx
MOM for beginners: http://www.microsoft.com/Mom/techinfo/training/getstarted.mspx
A new blog – not a lot of information yet: http://blogs.technet.com/momteam

I also found a reference on Books 24X7 to a book titled Monitoring and Managing Exchange Server 2003 that has some MOM information.

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RE: Need feedback on MOM documentation... - 9/29/2005 2:52:04 AM   
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i have the officail microsoft course manual on course 2287A

its just a operations guide....but nothing advanced....

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RE: RE: Need feedback on MOM documentation... - 10/6/2005 1:22:02 PM   
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I also have to books available online: Implementing MOM 2005 and Using MOM 2005 to monitor your enterprise.

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RE: Need feedback on MOM documentation... - 10/7/2005 1:47:45 AM   
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where did u get these manuals?

cheers
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RE: Need feedback on MOM documentation... - 12/21/2005 6:59:55 AM   
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Lik don' t work

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RE: Need feedback on MOM documentation... - 5/9/2006 2:40:11 PM   
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O' Reilly has a book... Essential Microsoft Operators Manager... It is pretty good.

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RE: Need feedback on MOM documentation... - 6/27/2006 10:14:09 PM   
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In my opinion, the O'Reilly book is OK at best.  It contains entry level information, but not enough depth.

Other titles are as follows:
How to Cheat at Managing Microsoft Operations Manager 2005 - OK but not well organized and not enough information.
Microsoft Operations Manager 2005 Field Guide - I have only skimmed it, but at first glance it looks a little better.
Professional MOM 2005, SMS 2003, and WSUS - Once again, entry level setup information.
 

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RE: Need feedback on MOM documentation... - 3/14/2008 5:56:24 AM   
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RE: Need feedback on MOM documentation... - 3/14/2008 5:57:53 AM   
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