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Question about primary server placement - 8/19/2008 1:06:27 PM

jseber1982

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Ok we have a central, 3 primaries and approx 50 secondaries under each primary.
Our primaries are East, West, and Canada.

The problem, is that all 4 of these servers sit in the same rack in Atlanta.

As far as network speed, wouldnt it make more sense to move the West to California, and move the Canada up to Canada?

We have a very small pipe going across the Canadian border. They complain that the wan goes to a crawl when patches go out, But i dont get it because they have an awsome wan up there..but just slow crossing the border. Our patches go to the site DPs before going out... but having that slow cross border connection is probably what is killing us right?

I am going to propose for us to move these servers, but just trying to get an idea and make sure that i am not doing this for nothing,

thanks in advance

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RE: Question about primary server placement - 8/19/2008 3:53:46 PM

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Moving the Primary would help with the transfer to the secondaries (as will with the inbox data moving up to the primary)
You might want to look at the Adv and make sure it is not set to download from remote if not found locally. Or you could force the secondarys as a Protected DP. This would make sure the clients are pulling from the local DP and not across the WAN.

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RE: Question about primary server placement - 8/20/2008 11:37:42 AM

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All of our distribution sites are protected.

Since there is no sms database on that side of the pipe,, i guess this could vastly improve performance and would be worth doing? Will also free up some bandwidth here at the headquarters if we move those primaries out.

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RE: Question about primary server placement - 8/20/2008 11:38:24 AM

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and also.. are there any cons to spacing the primary servers out from the central? besides being able to physically access them quickly

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RE: Question about primary server placement - 8/20/2008 11:49:23 AM

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Not really. It will increase the network traffic on data between the primary and centreal but you already have traffic from the secondaries to the primary so I don't think you will see any difference.

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RE: Question about primary server placement - 8/20/2008 11:54:51 AM

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We have about 40 secondaries communicating across the really small pipe across the border back to the primary.... If i moved it.. it would be only the primary going across the pipe back to the central. Or will this still be just as much traffic?

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RE: Question about primary server placement - 8/20/2008 12:09:37 PM

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Depending on what you have set to send up it will be the same or slightly less. Only the primary will talk across to the Central site. If you have most status messages stopping at the primary from the secondaires (most people do) then you will save alot of bandwidth.

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RE: Question about primary server placement - 8/20/2008 1:22:04 PM

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probably a dumb question and i could probably find it after looking for a while. How do i pick and choose which messages go up the tree?

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RE: Question about primary server placement - 8/20/2008 2:37:42 PM

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Ok you have to bare with me since I am now on SCCM and I don't remember if they are in the same place.
Site Setting -<Status Filter Rules

Look at the replication status to see what is sent up to the primary

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