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Software Update Point Client Installation - 5/23/2008 5:20:05 AM   
Fiveseven

 

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First of all my setup:
I have a central primary site and 4 secondary child sites.
The central site has a remote DP and a Remote SUP/WSUS and covers the roles:
FSP, RP, MP, SLP
The sec sites have:
DP, FSP, MP and 2 of the sites have their own SUP:

At the moment i am testing SCCM and when i am done i will install sec. sites at about 90 locations.
I have client istallation enabled with GPO at 1 site and have CLient Push enabled for the rest.

To my problem:
I have set up a test software update update list/deployment package and had it succesfully installed on the clients in two sites (without their own SUP), so I know that Software Update would work.
Yesterday I chose to install the client using SUP (on a sec. site with a SUP role) and followed the instructions in the SCCM 2007 adm. companion book and technet articles. But the instructions stop when you enable SUP client installation.
The question is how I actually deploy the client? Dont I have to find the SCCM client in SUP and make a deployment package first? 
I havent been able to find anything about this.


Another thing I dont understand is that when my clients at sec. sites get discovered they are assigned the sec. sites´ sitecode. But when the clients is installed by GPO/Client Push the sitecode is changed to 101. Client Push Installation properties in the Client property fane i have changed the SMSSITECODE to match the sec. site. Default is the primary site sitecode. What could i be doing wrong?

Thanks in advance.







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RE: Software Update Point Client Installation - 5/23/2008 6:04:11 AM   
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Status: offline 		You're not doing anything wrong.  Clients can only belong to a primary site, because that's where the database is and where policies are defined.  It doesn't matter how you install the client.  Change SMSSITECODE= to be either AUTO or your 3-digit primary site code.

Based on the boundaries you've defined for the secondary site, clients within those boundaries will look to the Secondary for most communications, like picking up policies from the MP, using the DP, as well as sending a lot of their data to the secondary to allow it to forward it on to the primary site using it's Sender, which you may or may not have adjusted for bandwidth throttling across the WAN.

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RE: Software Update Point Client Installation - 5/23/2008 7:20:44 AM   
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Status: offline 		I am using AD sites as boundaries for my sec. sites. All machines in the sec. site are defined within those AD sites.

Allright I changed it back to SMSSITECODE = 101 for the secondary site´s client push installation property.


My concern now is to get the SUP client installation to work. I have configured the client installation method at 2 of my sec. sites to use SUP client installation. But what else do I have to do?



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RE: Software Update Point Client Installation - 5/26/2008 4:19:31 AM   
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Status: offline 		Havent anybody done a Client installation by SUP?

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RE: Software Update Point Client Installation - 5/26/2008 11:31:39 AM   
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Status: offline 		I have always handled client installs via a "Client Health" machine startup script.  This has proven to be the most effective for us.  I like the concept of the SUP client install but still think a gpo startup script will provide better coverage.  Just food for thought.  :)

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RE: Software Update Point Client Installation - 5/29/2008 1:47:21 PM   
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Once you go to:  SCCM->Site Management ->Client Installation Methods
Right click Software Update Point Client Installation
Check the box enable.

It will create a package and auto install on all CCM clients.  If required that is.  If the client is already installed just not currently enabled it will just enable this portion of the client.  Just because it is enabled though doesn't mean clients will pull updates from SCCM.  You can check for this on clients by going to Configuration Manager->ComponentsYou should then see ConfigMgr Software Updates Agent: Status Enabled
Currently in my organization I have a select pilot group that is pulling updates from SCCM.  The rest of our clients still pull updates from our pre-existing WSUS server.  These clients have the software update agent enabled.

(This is strictly being based on my experiences with SCCM/SUP and may or may not be correct)

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RE: Software Update Point Client Installation - 6/2/2008 9:16:52 AM   
Fiveseven

 

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Status: offline 		Thanx for reply.

The trouble is that I in fact HAVE enabled SUP Client install from the console.
Like the GPO or Client Push Install methods I would like to see if the machines are getting the client installed - from the SCCM console gui. But no clients seem to get  it and that is what I dont understand. I have a pilot group on a secondary site chosen for this.

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RE: Software Update Point Client Installation - 6/13/2008 7:37:02 AM   
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Status: offline 		I figured it out. Thought I could give you guys the solution if anyone experinced the same problem.

Solution:
As stated in my first message some of my secondary sites does not have Software update points installed.
I am not able to pick "Active software update point on remote server" preference in the Software Update Point Component properties. It is greyed out.
Another importnant thing for my environment is that I am still running WSUS and replicas some locations to distribute Software Updates.

I found the following error in the wcm.log on one of the secondary site servers that has the SUP:
"PublishApplication(428df9ad-10a9-4b6e-8fd1-6fba23b41e22 - 0) failed with error System.InvalidOperationException: Cannot perform this action when the server is in replica mode~~   at Microsoft.UpdateServices.Internal.BaseApi.SoapExceptionProcessor.DeserializeAndThrow(SoapException soapException)~~   at Microsoft.UpdateServices.Internal.DatabaseAccess.AdminDataAccessProxy.ExecuteSPDeployUpdate1(UpdateRevisionId updateId, Int32 deploymentAction, Guid targetGroupId, DateTime deadline, String adminName, Boolean isAssigned)~~   at Microsoft.UpdateServices.Internal.BaseApi.Update.Approve(UpdateApprovalAction action, IComputerTargetGroup targetGroup, DateTime deadline, Boolean isAssigned)~~   at Microsoft.UpdateServices.Internal.BaseApi.Update.Approve(UpdateApprovalAction action, IComputerTargetGroup targetGroup, DateTime deadline)~~   at Microsoft.SystemsManagementServer.WSUS.WSUSServer.PublishApplication(String sPackageId, Int32 nRevision, String sSDPFile, String sCabFile) SMS_WSUS_CONFIGURATION_MANAGER 13-06-2008 12:48:35 6996 (0x1B54)"

So this got me installing WSUS SP1 on one of the sec. sites that did not have an SUP.
I also installed the SUP and removed the "This is a replica of the upstream server" setting in WSUS.
We also had to apply a Group Policie for this new WSUS, so clients would report to it.

I must say the SUP Client install method is the best method so far with the highest succes rate. I have had issues with the GPO method.
The only sec. site that is installing the client with GPO have suddenly changed the client is installed "tag" from YES to NO in the SCMM console.



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RE: Software Update Point Client Installation - 6/13/2008 10:09:28 PM   
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RE: Software Update Point Client Installation - 6/17/2008 8:58:53 AM   
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i have some of these scripts but was hopin you could share yours if possible


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