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itmu best practice - 8/29/2008 6:14:13 PM   
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How do you have your patches set up?

1 package with everything.. 1 for each month...1 for each app.. or what?

The reason for this is because one of our remote offices is complaining that each month.. the entire itmu patch file of 700megs is getting sent to every machine,, even though only a small patch is being added to it. Is there a setting or something that will fix this?

All of our primary servers are right here in atlanta.. approx 300 secondaries around the country.. and then 30 up in canada..

The pipe between us and Canada is very small. All of the secondaries up in Canada go across the pipe. I figure it would be better on bandwidth to move the Canada primary from Atlanta to up in Canada somewhere.

I thought that itmu did delta updates to the itmu file.. there must be a setting or something

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RE: itmu best practice - 8/29/2008 7:14:49 PM   
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Our corporate Office tried the monthly approach for awhile and did not like it.  They had problems with keeping everything current, especially new computers and units that were offline for a few months.  Some patches might be needed from two years ago so you will need a package that is all inclusive.  I use an approach where there is a package for each operating system and they accumulate all the patches since we started.  The folders get somewhat large but we do not have any remote users who download the updates.  All user runs the patch program whether they are local or remote.

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RE: itmu best practice - 8/31/2008 8:12:50 AM   
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The ITMU, as with any package, will do a delta update to the package but:

The SMS client will download the entire package even if it only needs one patch. (Note: SCCM2007 w/WSUS only downloads what is needed).
Since you updated the package it is a new version so even though you are downloading the same package there will be multiple versions on the SMS client (assuming you are using download then execute option.

We have a larger environment than you do an use the monthly method.  A single package is not a good option for us because of the very, very large size.  Instead, I keep collections, queries and reports for the monthly patches and can rerun the advert as needed.  That could also be setup on a recurring schedule.

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RE: itmu best practice - 9/2/2008 8:33:46 AM   
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I used to this this at my other job but it worked great as i was running  everything from The DP.  nothing got downloaded to cache.  Like Tbiggi said, new version, it will redownload everything downand install only what it needs.  What i would recomend is created a package with all patches as a maditory adv to all PC, then created one for each month from that point on and asigne to same collection.  That way you keep your comliace intact and new PC will only download the new packages not the entire (big) one that has allready been installed.  Hope that makes sence

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RE: itmu best practice - 9/2/2008 10:26:25 AM   
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We had a baseline, which is XP SP2. We deployed SP2 to those without SP2(a collection without SP2), and individual updates for those with SP2(another collection with SP2).

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RE: itmu best practice - 9/2/2008 2:19:31 PM   
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thanks for the replies guys.

I guess what i will do.. is keep the package that is currently in production since all machines have it. I will then start a new package so that the old 700meg one will not be pushed anymore except to new machines


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RE: itmu best practice - 9/5/2008 8:09:52 AM   
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Due to the size of our infrastructure, we try to keep the patch package sizes as low as possible so that we do not cause havok in our smaller link sites.  Typically we divide up the patches by product:  OS, OFFICE XP, OFFICE 2K3, OFFICE2K7, etc, and then use query based collections to make sure we're not sending patches to machines that do not have the product installed.  It is rather time consuming, but in the long run I feel it is more efficient, and is a better use of network bandwidth.

As a personal rule, I try to make sure each patch package is under 50 meg.  Unfortunately with the SQL patches of last month, I was unable to get the patch package under 150 meg (after removing the Itanium and x64 bit patches).

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